with Joshua Kevin (@joshuakevin), Founder and ex-CEO of Talenta. He shared how he got into tech community in the early 2010s, how he got opportunities from Startup Lokal, East Ventures, Tech in Asia, and Kakao before finally building Talenta. He shared his Talenta journey, from first pivot, struggle as fist-time founder, educating the market, how he hired and grew the team. Then he shared how and why he decided to merger with Sleekr, how the discussion with Suwandi happened, and how he felt about the merger. Then we discuss about B2B, SaaS, subscription, why he long SaaS, the future of it in Indonesia.