with Aryo Ariotedjo (@aryoariotedjo), founder of Wellspaces and Grupara Ventures. He shared his early life and the struggle with formal education, building relationship since school days, then his first venture in USA. Then he shared how relationship led him to start Grupara Ventures, why Wellspaces started as a free office space. How he amassed network of awesome people, how Gibran Rakabuming Raka attended his Meat Up event. He also shared about his personal life, dealing with depression, joining BJJ (Brazilian Jiu-jitsu) to keep both physical and mind healthy, why he avoid business books and what to read instead. You can find more info about Wellspaces at IG: @wellspaces.co, website: wellspaces.co, and Grupara Ventures at website: gruparainc.com. Spoken in Indonesia and English. For updates about Longspeech go to IG: @longspeech.